‘Paranoid’ Trump held meetings outside the book, probably no record

  • Former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham appeared on CNN over the weekend.
  • She said Trump held meetings outside the book whose contents were unlikely to be recorded.
  • Her comments come as the commission on January 6 seeks extensive records of Trump’s activities during the Capitol riot.

Former White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said former President Donald Trump held meetings outside the White House books to ensure they were not included in the National Archives.

Grisham’s remarks, made in a Saturday interview with CNN’s Jim Acosta, came as she addressed a bid from the House of Representatives committee on Jan. 6 to secure records from White House archives of Trump’s activities that day.

Grisham, who recently wrote a story about his entire time at work as Trump’s press secretary and senior assistant to First Lady Melania Trump, said Trump took extraordinary steps to keep information off the record.

She said Trump held many meetings in his White House residence, away from where the president performs official duties.

“Because the president at the time was so paranoid about leaks … a lot of meetings took place in the residence,” she said.

“Number one, so he could keep track of who was in there, and if it leaked out, he could try to find out.

“But number two, so it was largely kept away from books and documents and everything that was written down could probably be thrown in the trash, where people can not come and pick them up to put in the archives.”

She added: “A lot has happened and I’m sure the committee selected is aware of it and is investigating it.”

Representatives of Trump did not immediately respond to Insider’s request for comment.

Watch her CNN interview here:

The Jan. 6 committee is seeking comprehensive records of Trump’s last months in office, which the former president has tried to block from release, citing executive privileges to argue that they should be protected from the public.

On Friday, a U.S. judge sentenced Trump’s lawyers to a temporary blockade of the release of the records while they prepare for a legal challenge. President Joe Biden has said the records are not protected under executive privileges because Trump is no longer president.

The panel also seeks testimony from Trump’s best allies and aides. Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon defied a summons for testimony and was charged Friday with contempt of Congress by a federal grand jury.

Trump’s former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, also defied a summons to appear before the committee, saying he will not cooperate until the legal battle over the scope of Trump’s executive privilege is resolved.

In his CNN interview, Grisham said Meadows was involved in the planning of some of the meetings outside the books and should be a focus of the investigation.

“Mark Meadows was one towards the end who definitely helped plan these meetings, so I think Mark Meadows needs to be talked to, I think he will come to a standstill,” she said.

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